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news anchors, sometimes. >> jon: 750,000 people a day in that building. >> really, wow. happy birthday grand central. go niners. america's live starts right now. >> fox news alert. on a deadly attack targeting united states embassy in the capital of turkey. a short time ago we got this reaction from the white house to the attack. >> we strongly condemn what was a suicide attack against our embassy that took place at the embassy's outer perimeter. as i said earlier, details are emerging about what exactly happened, who was responsible. it was clearly an act of terror. it cost the life of at least one individual, a turkish security guard. >> we know the bomb exploded at
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a side entrance that was used by staffers. it killed a guard and injured several people. television footage show the debris on the ground and the windows were shattered nearby. it comes less than five months after the deadly assault in benghazi, libya that, of course, killed four americans. jennifer griffin is live. nice to see you. do we have any idea who was behind this attack. >> reporter: authorities say that they have identified the attacker and they say he belonged to a left leaning marxist group, a domestic group that they called the revolutionary people's liberation front. the group has been designated a terrorist organization by the united states but has been relatively quiet. u.s. officials say it's way too early to determine who is
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responsible. authorities have not ruled out involvement by al-qaeda or even an iranian group that is upset by what is happening in syria. remember the first of first of six patriot missile batteries were delivered and deployed this week to the border of syria inside turkey along with tusmt troops to operate it in turkey. also regionally it's widely believed inside syria that the u.s. is involved in some way helping israelis target convoy of advanced weaponry, the missiles that were bombed by israeli warplanes two days ago. a spokesman says that they are investigating, quote, we can confirm a terrorist blast on a checkpoint in ankora at 1:13 p.m. local time. we are working with the national police to make a full assessment of the casualties and to begin an investigation. all american personnel were told
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at the embassy are safe but the attack marred hillary clinton's last day on the job. she will be saying her farewell exiting the building here. john kerry will take the oath of office in a private ceremony. spokesperson was asked about the transition. >> i think that he is expected to be sworn in on the friday -- it's a transition. >> reporter: secretary kerry raised eyes saying that he was first choice of secretary of state and was offered the job before susan rice. thanks so much for the update. we will be following clinton's farewell and bring it live. more on the attack. terrorists targeting our embassies and diplomatic facilities goes way back.
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in 1993 a homicide car bomber destroyed the embassy in lebanon killing 63 people. jihad claimed responsibility for that. in 1998 a truck bombs were detonated near two u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania, 224 people were killed there, about 4500 injured and more heavily armed militants attacked in in benghazi. four marines were killed including ambassador christopher stevens. we're following this story and in our next hour, a man who has been to turkey several times. he has studied it and written about it. colonel ross peters is going to weigh in who he believes they could be behind the attack and why they targeted this embassy. we have another fox news alert. there is gut-wrenching new details emerging from the hostage situation in alabama.
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one local official says the five-year-old boy who is being held in an underground bunker has been crying out for his parents. the parents meanwhile, are holding up the best they can. elizabeth pran is live with the latest. >> reporter: it still remains a very tense scene. all the attention on the command center behind us. i want to give you just how closely we are to the crime scene. white building, the suspect lived on the property directly behind that and that is where authorities tell us that is where the bunker is. this is exactly what witnesses and also police confirmed to us. this is four-inch in diameter. this is only about four feet long but five or six pounds. we are under the impression from the police chief there is 60 feet of pvc piping that stretches to the street to this man's bunker and goes through some other buildings on the
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property. this is how police tell us they are communicating with the suspect. this is how they are getting medication to that young boy, getting him coloring books. we also know that the suspect has a number of supplies inside the bunker and we're not sure how much is in there. as far as the community is concerned, certainly still on lockdown. the area behind us remains evacuated. schools remain closed, but we do know some schools are opening up on monday. a lost children are asking where their fellow classmates are. we heard from one pastor. >> why he has the chile, we don't understand. we would really ask he would have mercy upon this child and let him be returned to his parents. >> reporter: we know that he was hailed as a hero, the bus driver and there will be funeral services for him on season. >> thanks for monitoring that.
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how will this life and death situation end? detective mark fuhrman says he sees four ways the former homicide detective what he says are the most likely scenarios and this little five-year-old boy. it reminds us of another terrifying kidnapping, 20 years ago, her name was katie beers. she was held captive in a coffin sized box for 27 days. the these are actual pictures of the room she was held in. fast forward to today. she is now a 30-year-old mother of two. he is embracing her silence with a new memoir. if there is anyone out there what this little boy is going through, it would be katie and she will join us next hour for a live interview. new white house reaction.
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this hour to today's unemployment report showing the jobless rate going up. jay carney. positive instead of pointing to signs of improvement. it did add jobs last month, more carney reminded reporters of the bad economy that this administration inherited. >> when this president took office in january 2009 we were in the miss of the worst recession sings the great depression. we were hemorrhaging jobs something like three-quarters of a million jobs a month. and hole dug by that recession in jobs terms was more than 8.5 million. >> how much work needs to be done. >>. four years since president obama took office, the economy is actually worse in four major categories. unemployment rate. january 2009 when he took office it was 7.8%. today it ticked up to 7.9%.
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consider the unemployment, the percentage of americans who are not working as much as they are able to or they want to. in 2009 that number was 14.2%. today that number is 14.4%. four years ago, just more than 12 million americans were out of work. now it's 12.3 million americans. today, less than 64% of americans who are capable have working who want to work actually have jobs or are out there looking and that is down 2% from 2009. editor of fox news politics, host of power play, hi, chris. those numbers are a lot to take in but what they sell out, what jay carney was saying, four years ago when the president took office, the country was in dire shape. in terms of joblessness, we are in more dire job?
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>> to his point the months that followed president obama's first inauguration were really terrible. we had the panic of 2008 in the fall of the year before. we were hemorrhaging jobs and it was very bad. another way to look at this is this. we have taken a long path to get back essentially to where we started, but just a little bit worse. what under lies those numbers, those numbers paint a grim picture, but what under lies those numbers is even worse. the number that you read about the labor force participation rate, that one is very dire. we had contracted the american work force and we haven't contracted by people retiring but we have contracted by people that have given up looking at jobs or taking part-time jobs. we have gotten back to a high level of unemployment but lower than it was for a period of time. the work force that is left behind is much worse shape than
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it was when president obama took office. >> the fact that we have worked our way around in a full circle back to the same pointed but a little worse than four years ago when president obama was sworn in, how does the white house frame that? >> it's the republicans fault. it was the old republicans fault. it was george w. bush. it was his fault and the fault, he says and so says the white house advisors, because republicans declined to join the president in a broad-based plan that involves raising taxes, borrowing more money for increased stimulus spending -- what the calls investments -- because republicans are unwilling to accede to his wishes. economy remains poor. that is what they say. republicans say just the opposite. they say because the president will not reduce taxes, because he will not cut government
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spending that is why the economy is poor and shouting continues. >> thank you for that update. [ laughter ] >> nice to see you. >> the president's healthcare law was supposed to make it more affordable but a glitch, so called glitch in the system could price many families out of healthcare. how did it happen? dr. mark siegle has answers for us. a fiery meeting as a new look what americans are saying about the government versus personal freedom. >> when angry people get together, this new york area. >> obviously -- assault weapons -- >> what is the penalty if you do not register. there are a lot of people setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve,
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>> allison: there is a new problem as the government implements a new law. it may price families out altogether. they can't afford coverage under the employer's plan but they are ineligible for subsidize because they make too much. one estimate says as many as 500,000 children could be left uninsured. dr. mark siegle is going to explain it. we don't know how many families but they make too much for one plan and not enough for the other. >> if you didn't full up to the gap you might fall into the oxymoron, affordability glitch. we're not talking health care we're talking health insurance.
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it comes out to $5600 per employer. but the employer can say to you, we can't afford to cover your kids. the people plan might cost more like $15,000. that ultimately could push you to the exchanges because the employer may say go to the ex changes and i'll take the penalty. when you go to the state exchange you might qualify for the subsidy. here is the good news. they won't charge you the tax penalty. so you have to insurance, have no access to health care but you won't have to pay that 1% tax. >> what happens to the estimated 5,000 kids? >> they don't 6 a solution to this. there is going to be millions of people that will fall into this glitch. this is something they did not anticipate. >> let's talk about this other situation that has just cropped up with health care. that is three years ago, congress created these panels.
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though -- tell us. what were the supposed to do. they never met. >> it's the work force commission. that was appointed in 2010 and like the one we talk about on the air and independent payment advisory board. this has 15 members. this one is making sure there is enough primary care doctors out there. especially in rural areas or nurse practitioners, someone to take care of people in underserved areas. i got to tell you back in the 1980s, they used to pay doctors to work in these clinics. you finish residency and go out to new mexico and we'll give you a stipend to work there. now instead, this is one of the problems with obamacare, we got a bureaucratic board that is supposed to meet and solve the problem. what is the problem? we talked about earlier in the week on the show.
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the problem is doctors can't affording to into primary care. medical students don't choose primary care. how do you fix that. nurse practitioners are not allowed to work in most of these clinics so i can build the clinics but only in 16 states can nurse practitioners work alone in clinics. we don't have the primary personnel to take care of this. >> and you have been warning this, the short aj of primary care doctors. i know you are not a fan of the panels but the irony, this panel hasn't done its job. it was supposed to come up with a solution but they haven't been able to do that. >> they haven't been funded because every year, another thing that our viewers don't know about the affordable care act, a lot of these things have to be refunded if. we have a board that exists. people are on it but they can't do their work without the money. if they had the money, it's a kogska panel.
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>> yet there is going to be short and. >> listen, we're talking 45,000 primary care doctors shot by 2020. that is without counting the nurse plaque advertisers. we got 150,000 nurse practitioners. i'm worried about it. >> doctor, thanks for joining us. >> major developments in a crank call. two australian djs that has pulled off the royal hoax that took a deadly turn. whether they will face criminal charges. latest on that tragic story ahead. plus, a texas prosecutor is gunned down by a masked man in broad daylight on his way to work. potential new clues who could be behind this attack. >> i was shot ander here pow, pow, pow and i saw a guy liags down. four people were around him and
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they were doing the cpr to him.
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>>. >> alisyn: new potential clues of a brazen murder. a masked gunman killing an assistant district attorney. what do we know. >> now police are saying that the assistant d.a. was ambushed in the parking lot of the courthouse, possibly by two suspects and it appeared to be planned because the suspect or suspects knew exactly where mark hassy was going. there was a short confrontation and then shots were fired. a witness says the suspects were dressed in black, possibly
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wearing tactical gear and got away in a white ford taurus. he headed up murder and drug cases. authorities said he was not working on any high profile cases that required added security, but the d.a.'s office is heavily involved in the investigation of the aryan brotherhood of texas. on day of the shooting, two of the aryan members actually pleaded guilty to racketeering charges. here is the police chief talking about that. >> i will tell you we are not ruling out any involvement until we know. we have no specific information that aryan brotherhood is a factor here. we have no indication that more hassy had worked any cases recently that were directly related to aryan brotherhood. >> reporter: now investigators are looking into the caseload of the accident assistant d.a. to
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find out if there might have been any potential threats but as of right now. those suspects remain or suspect remains at large. >> alisyn: as of yesterday they sent out an alert for troopers to be on the lookout of a silver model ford taurus. thanks. >> alisyn: new video of americans speaking out of gun control measures. a poll shows how many think it's a threat to their personal freedom. life and death hostage situation in alabama is in the fourth day and the life of a five-year-old boy is in the hands of a suspected murderer. the boy -- and the suspect are in and underground bunker. we pray for good news. former pd detective mark fuhrman is going to join us live to
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describe the situation coming up. and ed coch passing away, turning around a crime ridden city. plus he had at touching requests he made for everyone to remember him by. >> do you agree with me on eight on out of 12, shu you had vote for me. if you agree with 12 out of 12, see your psychiatrist. someone h♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ we, we chocolate cross over. ♪ yeah, we chocolate cross over. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing fiber one 80 calorie chocolate cereal. ♪ chocolate.
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>>. >> alisyn: we have a developing situation to tell you about in egypt. on the left side of your screen are live pictures in cairo. you can see crowds gathering there. on the right side is video of violent protests that happened earlier. thousands of people protesting against president morsi by marching in cairo. reports of one firebomb thrown over the front gate. security forces are trying to hold them back firing tear gas and water cannons. we're seeing this developing. later wave of violence is now in the eighth day. around 50 people have been killed since this started. they say the pace of change has been too slow to them and current regime could be at stake today. we'll keep you posted as things
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develop there. >> knew reaction pouring in on the death of icon of new york city. ed coch left a legacy as a hard charging politician who guiding through difficult times. live with more. >> he had been out of the hospital and birthday party last month. he told everybody if he died in the hospital the party should go on without him. at the birthday party when he wakes up every morning, he thinks to himself, i'm still in new york, thank god. that. city that he loved so much mourns and documentary happens to premieres. he died of congestive heart failure. he was 88 years old. >> when we were down, ed picked
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us up. when we were worried he gave us confidence. when somebody needed a good kick in the rear hearing gave it to them. he enjoyed it. >> he asked me if i had see the koch movie. he said he was pleased with the movie. he had a terrific life. he was larger with life. >> reporter: the mayor you may be remembered for his persona but saved new york at the brink of bankruptcy in the late 1970s. >> the city was in short term debt of $6 billion which we had to eliminate over a four-year period and we did it over a three-year period. i'm very proud of what we did. >> he created a billion dollar housing program that wiped out ghettos and forced out on
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international and local issues. >> he is the only man i know that speaks to god as an associate. [ laughter ] >> reporter: after three terms he was defeated in 1989, but that didn't stop him from remaining involved in public issues as a private and beloved citizen. >> as i said when i left office, i'm never going to retired. i expect to die at this desk. >> koch who never married described him as a liberal with sanity. >> i'm a whacko i'm not. >> he chose the last words of a journalist. my father is jewish, my mother is jewish, i am jewish and daniel pearl happened to be murdered by terrorists in 2002 on this very same day that ed koch has died. remembered with respect by many including those like me who had the privilege and honor of
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knowing him and covering him for many decades. >> alisyn: he loved new york and new york loved him. thank you. president obama second term gets underway, a growing number of americans that the government is threatening their personal rights. for the first time ever in the survey by the pew research center and for the people and the press, a majority of the public, 53% say the federal government threatens their personal rights and freedoms. this comes, of course, amid a growing debated over second amendment rights, highlighted by heated meeting on new york state's new gun restrictions. let's watch this. >> now you are turning them into criminals, you are making them angry and when angry people they get together. this western new york area. >> obviously, if you served in
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military, assault weapons were fully automatic weapons. >> what is the penalty if you do not register. because i guarantee you there are a lot of people that aren't going to. >> alisyn: leslie marshall is radio talk show host, ben ferguson is host of show on icon radio. 53% of americans that respond say they believe their freedoms are being threatened. is this all about gun rights because i should tell you this poll was taken january 9th through the 13th, that was before the president issued his 23 executive orders. >> yeah. it was before the executive orders but not before the nra and many on the right saw what was coming with those orders and kept talking about that mantra of taking away our rights, trying to take away our second amendment rights. when you look at the breakdown of the polls the majority that
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feel lack of trust with their government are more of the conservative republicans. democrats pretty much remain unchanged. what does surprise me is this happens so soon after an election. i hate to slam my fellow americans, it's not after election you say you don't trust your government and the officials that you elected into those positions. it's in october you look whether you trust your government before you vote. if people are complaining who they voted for, they have a responsibility to look at what they did. >> alisyn: what is the disconnect there. the people just voted and now are they having remorse. >> a lot of this is bait and switch. barack obama said if you vote for me i'm going to make sure that those that aren't in the upper 1% of americans taxes won't go up. i got flooded saying my payroll taxes went up. you have to read the fine print,
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but you have to look at obamacare that came out. we saw the irs, guess what, the cheapest mandated form of coverage i can have in 2016, bronze level out of four levels is going to cost an average family of four $20,000. we find that out today. i think a lot of people, you are mandating that i pay more taxes, but you promised me it wasn't going to happen. you are now telling me i have to pay a penalty which you promised me would make my life cheaper. people that voted for him, a lot of people are saying, going after your gun, this is not what america is all about. that is what they are upset. >> alisyn: this is puzzling part. were people not paying attention? the president didn't mislead people. he ran as someone who don't believe in what government and big government can do. she proponent of bigger government. why do people now say that they
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feel their personal freedoms are being infringed on? >> we as americans are pretty if i caning. during the clinton years, americans overwhelmingly wanted universe at healthcare. people said, no, they don't like change. i loved your speech, the problem is those are not personal freedoms. this is about guns. when the president ran... that definitely makes a difference. any commander in chief cannot overlook when you have massacre after massacre in this country. by the way, and by the way, when it comes to personal freedom, it's just comes down to the guns and nobody is taking away trying to protect the country. >> look at yesterday. you had an armed gun that stopped a kid who shot one person in the neck in atlanta. that is what law abiding
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citizens of, being there to stop a problem and not just attack. guns which is there right to have and fears look. [ talking over each other ] >> when you say working law enforcement officials, you guys on the right, you kill me -- no pun intended -- don't take our guns and now it's okay to beef up the police force. all those union jobs. >> alisyn: go ahead ben. >> listen. when you go after a gun and you don't fix the problem, okay, and that is why people think their personal freedoms are under attack, this president and the leadership under him are so obsessed with a gun they can't realize they protecting kids like they did in atlanta. people are saying we don't like the government because they are
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not fixing real problems of safety and security. >> alisyn: all right. thanks both of you for the debate. >> thank you. we have breaking developments one of the most controversial aspect of the president's healthcare law. what it means for religious groups and for birth control coverage. we'll bring you that. plus more on the five-year-old boy who is being held hostage under ground. a man accused of killing a bus driver. mark fuhrman on how he thinks investigators can bring that little boy home safely. the president picking the person that will lead the defense department. did you watch this? chuck hagel, why is he unprepared and what does it mean for his nomination. >> i have been handed a note that i misspoke and said i support the president's position on containment. if i said that, it meant to say obviously his position on containment we don't have a position on containment.
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>> alisyn: this is life and death situation. you and i are going to proceed cautiously. how do you think police can get this little five-year-old boy out safely. >> well. its tough situation. the suspect really has the tactical advantage.
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there is no ways to view him. you have a ventilation pipe. you have one way in and one way out and he has a hostage. i would believe that he values his life as well as the child. i don't think the situation can get any better for the suspect than it is right now. i say that because he can negotiate for his own life as well as the child simply by letting the hostage free and disarming himself and allow himself to be taken into custody. that is the best scenario that exists for him right at this moment. >> alisyn: detective, we have to talk about who the suspect is, mark. his name is jimmy lee dikes. he is accused of killing this little boy's school bus driver. he is described by neighbors as threatening and violent. he is apparently extremely anti-government. we have to pray there is some
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humanity still in dikes' soul. how do police negotiators tap into that? >> i think they are trying to establish a relationship with the suspect. it's pretty difficult talking down through a ventilation shaft instead of actually hard communications. they are trying to establish that. they are letting him show his hand. he is letting the child color in a coloring book. they provided that. they are allowing him to give him medication. he is not the hardened individual we would want to portray without knowing that. they are trying to negotiate the freedom. child and make him understand if he has concerns, if he has conspire al concerns, the only way they can be heard if he comes out alive. i think that once he realizes
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that his death will mean nothing but his life might mean something, i think this might come to an end. >> alisyn: you are so right. his life would mean something if he let the five-year-old boy go. he will on some level he will be a hero. he will not be hated as he would be if something were to happen to the boy. and you believe some of the things in suspect's five. he has television down there. he has food and water. he doesn't seem desperate. he doesn't seem intimidated. this bunker is a tornado shelter. we understand from neighbors he has stayed in there previously for as many as eight days. so, can police negotiators just be patient and wait him out? >> i think they are going to be patient. i think they expected this situation. when they first heard, when you first heard the situation unfold
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and f.b.i. get their negotiators and s.w.a.t. team, they expect some of these things with what they were given as information. we don't know enough about this man to make it really incredibly valuable. i haven't heard of any psychologists that have seen him. we have heard his criminal acted or intimidation, his acts in the neighborhood. surely, there is some underlying reason why he is angry and quite possibly has a mental condition that we don't know about. they are trying to deal with that at the same time. time is on his hands. i have read he is sleeping. that he is watching tv. he is keeping up to speed on the events. he has food. he has water. he definitely has a tactical position on his side. this is going to go as long as the suspect wants it to go unless something else actually occurs. in other words, a change in the
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environment. >> alisyn: if he had television, he is watching, let's hope he hears the pleas to let the little boy go. mark fuhrman, thanks for your expertise. we're going speak to a woman that survived a similar kidnapping 20 years ago. she was held captive for 17 days in a coffin sized box. these are pictures of the actual room she was health in. she will be with us live next hour. and major developments in that crank call that shocked the world. two djs pulled off a royal hoax. they are hearing whether they will face criminal charges. we have that story for you in three minutes. >> the thought we may have played a part in that is -- n't .
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>>. >> alisyn: update on possible legal action in that hoax of the british royal family that shocked the world. two australian radio djs pranked pretending to be the queen and then a nurse committed suicide. prosecutors have made a decision on whether or not they should face manslaughter charges. trace is live with more. what did they decide? zbloogtd they now say the british prosecutors there is not enough evidence to support manslaughter charges and not be able to extradite them if there were charges. i'm quoting here, prosecutors are saying the consequences in this case were very sad, however misguided the call was a
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harmless prank. the hosts posed as queen elizabeth and prince charles using that horrible english accent to gain information about kate and morning sickness. listen to part of the call. >> trace: a nurse put them through to kate's room where another nurse reveals their condition. she hanged herself in the hospital a few days later. she left notes criticizing her colleagues at the hospital. two djs have not commented about not facing charges as you saw earlier, they did make a tearful apology. they have sings been fired. australian media watchdog is also kind of investigating this case but we do not expect them to face any charges in their
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native country. >> alisyn: they were clearly distraught by the inintended consequence of what happened. thanks for the update. >> breaking news on the national healthcare law. obama administration giving ground on the aspect that had opposition. dow jones breaks through 14,000 for the first time since 2007. why is wall street soaring when the economy is hardly moving? and still ahead, iran taking a dangerous step in the nuclear program. developments that is raising concerns now in washington. [ male announcer ] after years of celebrations, marie callender's gives you a way to make any day a special occasion. new mini cream pies for one. real whip cream and a cookie-crumb crust. marie callender's. it's time to savor.
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>>. >> alisyn: fox news alert. there could be a big reversal by the white house on birth control coverage under obamacare. welcome to a brand-new hour. i'm in for megyn kelly today.
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a broader opt out to the requirement that employers provide workers free birth control. a requirement that drew furious opposition between religious groups. it triggered a flurry of lawsuits that could wind up in front of the supreme court. here is jay carney. >> we need to provide preventative services for all women and that includes contraception and we also need to respect religious beliefs. that is the balance the president made clear he wanted to be kept in mind as the rules were proposed and developed. >> alisyn: james rosen is live from washington with more. what do we know? >> reporter: good afternoon.
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we have seen on this issue the last year, major catholic figures and groups are split in their response. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is calling it the next step while respecting religious concerns. nonprofit religious employers such as catholic colleges and hospitals will be able to opt out in providing female contraception. the encloses come out of the user fees that insurers pay to the government in the new federal government or exchanges established by the obamacare law, but they insist taxpayers won't foot the bill because increased access to contraception will be net savings for all concerned. quote the issuer of the plan would be paid for the user a reduction in user fees. this is from a conference call that happened a short while ago. user fees are not paid for by
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the federal government. user fees says hhs are contributions that the plans or issuers are paying for them to participate in the market, places. no covered are private sector companies with religious objection. that means the lawsuits will likely go forward. the catholic league called this a sign of goodwill but added still unresolved is the issue of private employers who invoke a religious objection to provide insurance coverage for services they deem morally objectionable. because the new rules have not been finalized and there is an opportunity for further discussion, more progress may yet be made, unquote. still other catholic groups are coming out and calling it window dressing and vowing to fight further. there lab 60-day period of public comment but the rules expected to be finalized by this summer. >> alisyn: this is not over yet. we have more reaction to the white house's loosening of the
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birth control mandate. here what cardinal timothy dolan one of the most outspoken critics had to say. >> this is cause close to our heart. i'm not exaggerating but i pray for some type of accommodation for a long time. this is fight -- we're not fighters by nature. we don't like to be fighters. >> alisyn: he tells us he is pleasantly surprised, he still wants to read and digest the changes himself. for latest reaction go to foxnews.com. conflicting nay numbers raising questions about the u.s. economy today. out recently the labor department just announced in january that unemployment, the rate has jumped one-tenth of a percent to 7.9%. the economy shrank slightly in the last quarter of 2012. our nation's debt grew to $16.4
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trillion. investors are seemingly unfazed pushing the dow jones to the 14,000 mark for the first time since 2007. what is all with the conflicting data and why is the dow reacting this way. and the unemployment rate ticked up to 7.9% and the dow spiked, how do you explain that? >> the unemployment rate moved to 7.9% and it would be worse that more people found a job dropped out to the work force and stopped looking altogether. it was 169,000. so many people had stopped looking for work, just gotten discouraged and given up since the president has been in office that unemployment rate would be 10% if those people were still looking for a job. even worse, 22.7 million people that are unemployed. if you include people who would like to work more, they need more work in order to really pay
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what they need to. >> alisyn: even the number of people that found jobs was described as ho-hum. explain the dow's reaction? >> it's pretty simple. investors are looking at what the fed is doing. fed has said they are watching unemployment. as long as unemployment remains high they will pumping money into the economy and keep interest rates are low. when interest rates are low investors go into stocks. you can't make money in bonds when interest rates are low. by definition they are not getting paid for it. investors look at this unemployment report, it's not terrible, the government is not stalling so it's right down the middle. that is good for the stock market. >> alisyn: wall street likes a little bit of bad news? >> yeah. you are embattle right. it just insures that the fed is
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going to stay on the road. they had said recently when unemployment reached 6%. we would have to add 350,000 jobs for the next three years in order to get to 5-6%. >> yet the last time the dow delayeded above 14,000 was october 17th, 2007. so is this cause for celebration today? >> well, it is in the stock market. you are thrilled. we are back where we were before the big crash. bad news more than one in four americans have dipped into the 401-k to pay expenses. everything the fed is doing and everything the government is doing, once again helping wealthy people but the average person that is looking for a job not helping. >> alisyn: do you think this spike is a blip or are we going to see something sustainable? >> that is the magic question.
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there are a lot of people wondering that. people that really follow the market do believe that it is going to continue to go higher -- i don't know. it's hard for me to believe as companies aren't cutting back that much, consumers are spending, i don't know how much longer companies can keep it up. most believe the rally is real. >> alisyn: what about the jobless numbers. president is being reelected that he has talk about immigration. there has been heated discussion about gun control. both very important issues. what is being done about jobs? >> it doesn't seem like a lot. we heard the jobs council got dissolved. they actually had a lot of great suggestions. i was looking through things they proposed. one was a partnership between educational institutions and companies how we can train people for jobs out there. there are computer jobs that are going wanting because we don't
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have people trained for them. council met but nothing was done with the suggestions. it's like simpson-boles, they came up with great ideas and then the president sort of dismissed them. >> alisyn: we need to implement them. >> why not. >> alisyn: great to see you. catch more with melissa on money airing weekdays at 5:00 p.m. on the fox business network. meanwhile, the terror attack on a u.s. embassy, this time in turkey, a nato ally. we'll talk to a man that knows all about turkey, retired lieutenant ralph peters and why they targeted the embassy now. imagine being on a flight and pilot passing out in midair? this happened last night. terrifying ordeal just ahead. and president's pick getting harsh reviews for his performance at confirmation hearing. why was chuck hagel so
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>>. >> alisyn: we want to tell you new developments on the growing crisis with iran and nuclear program. rogue nation announcing plans to ramp up uranium enrichment facilities. they will install advanced centrifuges that could speed up the enrichment process. u.s. calling this, quote a provocative step and comes as the u.s. continues to try to convince iran to end uranium enrichment by diplomatic means. fox news alert. there is new reaction to that deadly terror attack outside our embassy in turkey.
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spokeswoman talking about some of the casualties from the attack. let's listen. >> shaken up and on the other side of bulletproof vests. we had turkish visitor who is in serious condition but the only other casualties here were several turkish staff that were struck by flying debris, treated on the site at the clinic and released. >> alisyn: and the prime minister now claiming that the bombing was by a member of a far left militant group known as the revolutionary people's liberation front. lieutenant colonel ross peters is a strategic analyst. what do we know about the revolutionary people's liberation front? >> they are one of many splinter groups. they have been active in the past. i have to say despite the hasty
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announcement of who did it, i still suspect it's a little more complicated. i'm not convinced that leftist group has united states as prime target right now. there is more to come out on this. with that said, this is really despite the tragic loss of a security guard, this is good news story in the sense that the terrorists couldn't get in. the security worked. this wasn't benghazi. the terrorist suicide bomber could not get passed the outermost layer of embassy security. that says something good about on our security and bravery turkish guard that didn't let him in. >> alisyn: you have been to turkey five times. you have studied turkey, its
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history and written about it. i was most impressed you and your wife spent your honeymoon in turkey. this is a country near and dear to you. why do you think the attack happened today? >> when we went on our honeymoon, we went all the places to c.i.a. said were safe and had a great time. you look at three options. one, this was really just the incompetent work of a leftist group as the prime minister claimed. second possibility is that iran's deeply behind it, behind the left wing group. no love lost between iran and turkey. they are mad about syria and mad about approach to the nuclear program. they won't miss a chance to hurt us. there is a remote chance it was an al-qaeda affiliate working through a leftist group. there is strange bedfellows in pa part of the world. i think for the turks they
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wanted to blame it on somebody and somebody they knew because turkish security is generally very, very good. very tough. they are embarrassed even though we kept the bad guy out, the terrorists did manage to get through the turkish security which is pretty tight. i suspect we're going to find that the guy, he had gone to the u.s. consulate which was the easiest part to get in. he was probably very well dressed, it gets cold there in the wintertime. just enough to conceal a small suicide bomb. you see if you look at the pictures closely nooshghd lot of damage, tragically a security guard lost his life. a turkish civilian was badly injured. but it could have been a lot worse. >> alisyn: i know you see this in a different lighted than what happened in benghazi, but should it be an ominous sign that our
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embassies and consulates are being attacked. this is new normal. throughout the rest of my lifetime, maybe the rest of yours, these attacks going to continue. the middle east is so utterly broken economically, culturally, competitively and educationally all these arab spring revolutions we have seen, throughout the arab world and over to the iran and beyond, all these struggles are about identity, about trying to right themselves, about trying to make their cultures work. they are multisided civil wars as we have seen in egypt. it's not just islamists, it's moderates and fanatics, ethnic components. this area of the world is going to generate trouble for us for a very long time.
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the answer for us is to accept it's going to be a long struggle and play the game as wisely as we can. >> alisyn: what does that look like? >> that looks like very much like we're doing in mali even though that is not the middle east. whatever possible let other countries do the bleeding because they will be plenty of opportunities for americans to bleed. we can support, supporting the french in mali with intelligence far better than any other country can provide. logistics, aircraft, training for the locals. think we're going to see an era of more partnerships critical necessary partnerships some even grudging because the threat of turmoil right now from the islamist fanatics but potentially from other groups, turkish prime minister claimed this was a marxist group.
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the turmoil will be there. we have to think efficiently, economically, cooperatively and for once we've got to start thinking strategically. the greatest american weakness is we think short term. this will be a long and ugly struggle. >> alisyn: of course, if this is new normal, we need to be beef up security at all of our embassies and consulates around the world if we think it is inadequate? >> yeah, the embassy security -- i've been to a lot of embassies -- is generally pretty good. sometimes it's terrific. benghazi was a total screwup. libya was a screwup. a small left wing crowd wanted to get to condoleezza rice, that was inside baseball thing. generally our embassies do well. as has been observed, ambassador
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can't hug the flagpole. they need to get out. deputy chief of mission and military they can't hug the embassy. there is always going to be some risk. i, frankly, even though i've always wanted to criticize something that is wrong, i have been impressed over the years by how well professional diplomats have struck that balance. some are gutless, most are pretty brave. >> alisyn: everything we heard about stevens he was doing whater suggesting. ralph peters, thanks so much for your inis sight. >> three minutes, dramatic new information on a terrifying situation aboard that alaska airlines plane where the pilot passed out midair. what happened, who landed the plane, how did the passengers feel? and u.s. navy ship stuck on a
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>>. >> alisyn: we want to take you live to the white house. this is the east room where president obama is honoring our nation's best and brightest. there are a dozen scientists and researchers receiving the national medal of science for lifetime achievement. 11 inventors are also being recognizing this award is viewed as the highest honor that can be given to scientists and engineers and innovateders across the country. if you would like to watch more
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of this, it's streaming at foxnews.com. >> crew of the shuttle columbia did not return safely to earth, yet we can pray that all are safely home. >> alisyn: it's been ten years since the columbia space shuttle disaster. it blew up over texas while making a land in florida. seven astronauts were killed minutes before they were set to arrive home. today nasa is honoring their memory and lives lost in previous missions in a day of remembrance. dr. steve harrigan is live at cape canaveral. >> a solemn day at the complex. a sense of remembering and sense of gratitude for those that gave their life in space exploration. three of the major tragedies in nasa occurring in different years but on in the same week beginning in 1967 with apollo
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one a fire claim the lives of three astronauts including gus grissom. then in 1986 the space shuttle challenger exploding after 73 seconds in flight. of course on board the challenger was the first teacher in space. it was later found that a faulty seal around a booster rocket was responsible for that crash. finally ten years ago today, this time it was the space shuttle columbia after a selling 16-day mission. that orbiter coming apart minutes away from home. some of the family members of the seven crew members here today to mark that with remembrance and gratitude trying to push the envelope. back to you. >> alisyn: i remember that day vividly. >> 20 years after her kidnapping made worldwide headlines, a hostage survivor opens up about
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that traumatic experience. she can shed insight what is going on in the life and death situation. hostage situation happening during these hours, as well. we're going to talk to katie beers and introduce you to her story. a flight takes a frightening turn when the pilot loses consciousness and who had to land the plane. the president's pick for defense secretary after a rough round of questioning yesterday, new reaction from the white house all coming up after the break. >> i have been handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the president's position on containment. if i said that, it meant to say i obviously his position on containment a, we don't have a position on containment. ness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy,
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>>. >> alisyn: an scan airlines flight was forced to make an emergency landing after the pilot passed out in midair. live in new york with the details. >> reporter: scary moments. fortunately nobody was hurt on flight 473. jetliner landed safely and pilot was taken to the hospital where they suspect the flu virus caused him to pass out. spokesperson for the airlines says the pilot's condition has greatly improved. after the plane took off from los angeles, the pilot a 28-year
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veteran of scan, fainted and a passenger who happened to be a doctor gave him medical care. the copilot, 11 year veteran landed the aircraft in portland where emergency crews met them around 6:30 last night. there were 116 passengers and five crew members making the emergency landing in portland around 9:00. it was supposed to land at 9:30 and fortunately everyone was safe. >> alisyn: thanks for the update. fox news alert. this is secretary of state hillary clinton is making her final comments as america's top diplomat. she is expected to say a final farewell before handing over duties to john kerry. as they deal with the other terrorist attack in turkey. let's listen in. >> fully express how grateful i am to those with whom i have
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spent many hours here in washington, around the world and in airplanes. [ laughter ] >> i'm proud of the work we have done to elevate diplomacy and development, to serve the nation we all love, to understand the challenges, the threats and opportunities that the united states faces, and to work with all of our heart and all of our might to make sure that america is secure. that our interests and values are respected. as i look back over these past four years, i am proud of the work we have done together. of course, we live in very
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complex and even dangerous times as we saw again just today at our embassy in ankora. where we were attacked and lost one of our foreign service nationals and others injured. i spoke with the ambassador and the team there. i spoke with my turkish counterpart. i told them how much we valued commitment and their sacrifice. i know that the world we are trying to help bring in to being in the 21st century will have many difficult days, but i am more optimistic than i was when
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i stood here four years ago. i have seen day after day the many contributions that our diplomats and development experts are making to help ensure that this century provides the kind of peace, progress and prosperity, not just the united states, but especially young people so richly deserve. i am very proud to have been secretary of state. i will miss you. i will probably be going up just to talk. [ laughter ] i will wonder what you are all are doing because i know that because of your efforts day after day we are making a real
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difference. but i leave this department confident, confident about the direction we have set, confident that the process of the tdr for the first time has enabled to us ask hard questions about what we do, how we do it and whether we can do it even better. state and a.i. d. have to be learning organizations. we owe to ourselves. we owe it to the president. we owe it to the american people. so i will be an advocate from outside for the work that you continue to do here and at a.i. d. it's been quite a challenging week saying goodbye to so many people and knowing that i will not have the opportunity to continue being part of this
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amazing team. i am so grateful that we've had a chance to contribute in each of our ways making our country and our world stronger, safer, fairer and better. those of you who are staying, as many of you will, please know that i hope you will redouble your efforts to do all that you can to demonstrate unequivocally why diplomacy and development are right up there with defense. when we think about who we are as americans, it's because we are united and committed to do whatever is required to fulfill
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the mission we have assumed as public officials and public servants. so, next week i will expect that all of you will be as focused and dedicated for secretary kerry as you have been for me and you will continue to serve president obama and our nation with the same level of professionalism and commitment that i have seen firsthand. on a personal basis, let me wish all of you the very best, whether you've been here a week or even 30 years or 40 years, pat. [ laughter ] >> let me give you the very best wishes that i can because i'm
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proud to have been a part of you. i leave thinking of the nearly 70,000 people that i was honored to serve and lead as part of a huge extended family. i hope that you will continue to make your selves, make me and make our country proud. thank you all and god bless you. [ applause ] >> alisyn: you have been listening to secretary of state hillary clinton giving her final remarks. this is her last day as she hands the torch off to john kerry who become secretary of state. "wall street journal" posed an question, was this an epilogue to the chapter or was a prelude to the next chapter. i can find me on twitter. coming up. get new insight on the hostage situation involving a five-year-old boy who is being
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held cap the active under ground. someone who survived a similar experience. we'll get her insight. katie spent 17 case trapped underground in a dungeon. a story that you have to stick around to hear and she will join us live next.
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>>. >> alisyn: we're keeping a close eye on the situation in alabama where a little boy is being held captive with a suspected killer for four days. the kindergartener has been crying out for his parents and, of course, he is terrified. this is similar to another kidnapping in new york 20 years ago when ten-year-old katy was kidnapped and locked in an underground box for 17 days. trace gallagher has more on the story. >> trace: that under ground box you talked about or cage was five feet by seven feet.
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it was dark. it was damp and ten-year-old katy was often chained inside that box. they called it a hellhole a real live silence of the lamb. her abductor was john esposito that raped her and neglected her. she forced herself to stay away to try to convince him to release her. 17 days later he finally did. he remains in prison to this day. here he is during his trial. >> and katie beers says as horrifying the ordeal was it was the best thing that happened to her, it finally rescued her from emotional and sexual abuse at home.
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repeatedly sexually assaulted by god mother's had you been. she went to live with foster parents who sheyered her from the media. recall if you will the weeks and weeks the media hounded this girl waiting outside her school and finally they gave up. for 20 years, katie beers has not said anything publicly at all about this case. now, she is finally speaking out. >> alisyn: that is exactly right. katie beers knows firsthand what this little five-year-old boy is going through. a new book, called buried memories, katie beers' story. hi, katie. >> how are you. >> alisyn: i'm well. we are happy to have you with us to share your thoughts as you hear of this horrible nightmare this little five-year-old boy in alabama is going through. what were you thinking today
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when you heard what he is enduring? >> i unfortunately did not hear about this story until yesterday. i had been in l.a. all week doing things. i was horrified when i heard about this poor little boy, five years old. i can't even imagine honestly what he is going through being that young and not knowing his abductor, possibly seeing his school bus driver killed in front of him. >> alisyn: we were talking about when you were abducted nine years old. you spent your tenth birthday in a dungeon. what can you tell us about your experience? >> 17 days i my only contact i had was john espito, my abductor i was deprived of nourishing
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food and normal every day things that everybody takes for grants, being able to brush your teeth, shower, use the toilet and things like that. it was horrific and horrifying. >> alisyn: how did you get through it? >> in my case, i knew my abductor. i had known him all of my life. the thing that kept me going was that i knew him, in my heart i didn't think he was going to kill me. i knew eventually i would get out whether it was in two weeks, five years or when i was 18, nobody knew. the thing that kept me going was thinking about my future and thinking about the things that i wanted to do with my life. >> alisyn: were you able to reason with your abductor and plead for mercy? >> i was able to reason with my abductor and i was able to do
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that because my abductor was a pedophile. if the abductor seems like abductor of opportunity almost, i don't feel from the stories i have read, i don't feel he pinpointed it. i think he was looking for a young child who was unable to fight back against him. >> alisyn: and so hard for us to know what is going on in the scenario right now. we read reports that ethan has syndrome maybe he has adhd, it's hard to know if his abductor will be able to reason with him. ethan asked for coloring books and we just pray this scenario turns out all right. how did you get get free? >> i got free finally, my abductor gave in to the police that were sitting out of the house essentially. i had the day before released me.
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i told him i wasn't feeling well. i think i manipulated him in a way by asking him questions every day about my future. john's intentions was to keep me until the cops stopped looking for me and try to build a future with me. ethan's beginninger i don't think is looking for long term fortunately for him. >> alisyn: how often did those 17 days that you were in captivity come back to you? is that a daily, replaying in your head or have you repressed much of it? >> until i started wearing it i had repressed a lot of it. i had to dig everything back up and almost relive it. now that i am done writing buried memories i can focus about the good, focus about my husband and my kids and my life. >> alisyn: what was your recovery like. once you were set free, you were
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ten years old, how did you recover? >> years of therapy and i have to credited my parents, my foster parents. they gave me a childhood i never thought i would be able to have. they let me run around in the streets and gave me nourishing meals and gave me structure. things i didn't have growing up. >> alisyn: i know that is silver lining here. you have somehow have been able to turn this horrific ordeal into something positive for yourself because you were able to go to a loving and beautiful foster care family. that is beautiful and your book is buried memories, katie beers' story. we thank you so much for sharing your personal story and giving us an insight into this hostage situation. >> thank you. >> alisyn: coming up a u.s. navy ship is stuck on a reef. the only option is to cut up the
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>>. >> alisyn: it's like a real life game of battleship. the navy decided to scrap a ship that got stuck on reef near the philippines. how are they going to handle this? >> reporter: they are going to try to cut it up and tear it apart. it's one of those ships to go through water ways to make sure there are no mines in the water way. it hit the reef for two reasons. one because the navy maps were inaccurate and because digital navigation charts misplaced the reef by eight miles. now, instead of repairing some
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say is do-able and others say is not. navy is going to cut it up. $277 million ship they are going to cut in small pieces and then remove it then they have to clean the whole area up. if they drag it off the reef they might damage the ecosystem. the reef is being considered to become one of the seven wonders of the world. navy critics clearly unhappy calling this a bonehead move going in, a bonehead move coming out. saying that losing the ship is a big blow to the navy with major military cuts on the horizon. many believe with less money, less training, more mistakes like this will happen in the future. just so you know the guardian is one of 14 mine sweepers in the naval fleet. and 12 of those are now in or around the persian gulf area. this one not going to be long, cut up and torn off and take the
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equipment off. >> alisyn: boneheaded move. i'm familiar with that technical term. [ laughter ] >> alisyn: millions of people work and live and drive everyday, but this was no accident. ( bell rings ) they remind me so much of my grandkids.
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